Beyond The Mask: Innovation & Opportunities For CRNAs
A podcast for the CRNA industry. Discussing the important issues that happen both in, and beyond, the operating room. With Sharon Pearce, DNP, CRNA, FAANA, FAAN and Jeremy Stanley, EA, CFP, AIF. Innovations & opportunities for CRNAs & APRNs. Visit our website for more great information https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ and to learn how you can get CE Credit as a CRNA just by listening to the podcast. Don’t miss our special series on CRNA History, CRNA Personal Finance & Retirement, Political Conversations, CRNA Career Issues, and our leadership series called Courage To Lead. Check out new episodes of Beyond The Mask every week with distinguished guests from the CRNA community... #anesthesiology #rn #surgery #healthcare #nurseanesthesiologist #crnaschool #nursing #srnalife #nurselife #nursingstudent #ornurse #nurseanesthesia #crnalife #nursepractitioner #medschool #anesthesialife #scrublife #icunurse #hospital #futurecrna #medical #crna #nurse #anesthesia #srna #nurseanesthetist #nurses #surgical #operatingtheatre #medicalstudent #operatingroomnurse #studentnurse #diversitycrna #ccrn #nursepractitioner #APRN #APRNchat #NPchat #midwife #NP
Episodes

Thursday Jan 23, 2020
Ep 57: How CRNAs and SRNAs Can Deal with Stress and PTSD
Thursday Jan 23, 2020
Thursday Jan 23, 2020
Working as a nurse anesthetist can be a highly emotional and stressful position as you constantly deal with pressure to perform. That’s why there’s an emphasis being put on health and wellness by people like Jerry Hogan, DNSc, CRNA, ARNP-BC, who is the program director at Rush University. He joins us to talk about this topic and ways that CRNAs and SRNAs can cope with the stress and PTSD brought on from work.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2238
Today's rundown:
2:25 – Our guest today is Jerry Hogan, DNSc, CRNA, APRN-BC
3:37– Opening up with the key points on today’s topic of PTSD, Second Victim Syndrome, wellness, and stress.
5:55 – PTSD is divided into three clusters: re-experiencing, avoidance, and persistent arousal.
7:28 – How much of this is a societal issue?
10:09 – Anesthesia school is very trying and that’s where wellness starts.
13:13 – Jerry believes that healthy people are people that can control their thoughts and feelings and behaviors.
14:28 – We are the ones responsible for our own well-being.
15:43 – Wellness resources that are available for CRNAs.
17:32 – How do you practice mindfulness?
20:30 – What’s your response when people say we are babying our students?
22:35 – Discussion on cognitive reframing.
26:00 – What Jerry does when his stress level is elevated?
28:31 – Jerry recaps his career and experience in the military, which led him to this field.
34:00 – Final message from Jerry

Thursday Jan 16, 2020
Ep 56: Courage to Lead: Looking Back at Dick Ouellette’s Time as AANA President
Thursday Jan 16, 2020
Thursday Jan 16, 2020
In the latest installment of our Courage to Lead series, we spend some time with Dick Ouellette, CRNA, MEd, who was a two-term president of the AANA. During his time serving in that capacity, Ouellette helped reinvigorate the profession by focusing on education standards and had a heavy involvement in direct reimbursement coming to pass.
Read more about this episode: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2223
Today's Rundown:
2:43 – Our special guest today is Dick Ouellette, CRNA
3:17 – Give us some highlights from your two terms as AANA President.
4:46 – The second thing he was interested in at the time.
6:19 – Where he was focused during the second term.
7:18 – Why were joint committees so important to Dick at the time?
10:39 – Direct reimbursement’s beginning and how it progressed during his term.
16:42 – What’s the significance of direct reimbursement?
19:18 – What would it look like today if direct reimbursement didn’t happen?
23:48 – Education was a big concern for Dick. What was the response when he wanted to increase requirements?
28:08 – Dick shares a great story about Sandy and education.
28:33 – Moving to 1990 and the commission that formed.
33:06 – The thing that Dick feels we’re lacking the most today.
36:39 – If Dick could pick one other profession, what would it be?

Thursday Jan 09, 2020
Ep 55: How Smart Leaders Prepare for an Unknown Future with Calvin Stovall
Thursday Jan 09, 2020
Thursday Jan 09, 2020
The healthcare industry, much like the world around us, is full of uncertainty. How comfortable are you with the potential for change? Today we talk with keynote speaker Calvin Stovall about actions and principles you can apply to your life to help you continue to grow and perform at a high level.
Read more about this topic and get additional resources: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2231
Today's rundown:
1:50 – Our guest today is Calvin Stovall.
4:36 – What can a person do to prepare for uncertainty?
5:43 – Widen your circle to become a better person.
7:01 – What keeps people from stepping out of their comfort zone and meeting new people?
8:51 – We aren’t taught how to fail. How does someone move forward after failing?
11:16 – Putting this podcast together was stepping out for us and a big learning experience.
12:07 – What Sharon would tell her children when things weren’t going well.
12:59 – You should never stop learning. It’s a big part of being successful.
15:31 – What do you tell people that are scared to step out of their comfort zone?
17:58 – Do you know how much the average attention span has changed since 1980?
20:52 – What Sharon does every year to challenge herself.
22:27 – Calvin has a mastermind group that meets every quarter.
24:41 – How can take that entrepreneurial spirit and apply it to the CRNA industry?
26:29 – The book ‘Think and Grow Rich’ talks about mastermind groups.
28:20 – Why Calvin’s favorite word is passion.
31:12 – What final message would Calvin like to leave for listeners?
32:34 – How to get in touch with Calvin.

Thursday Jan 02, 2020
Ep 54: How CRNAs Should Prepare for Depositions with Steve Mund
Thursday Jan 02, 2020
Thursday Jan 02, 2020
No one ever expects to be a part of a lawsuit but situations arise where CRNAs have to answer questions under oath. It’s an intimidating process, especially for someone who’s never been a part of a trial before, but we’ll help prepare you for a deposition by explaining the process and how you can protect yourself.
***CE CREDIT ALERT: Did you know you can get continuing education credit from the AANA for listening to this episode? Go to AANACKN.com to get the details and get your credit today! And see a list of other episodes that qualify for CE credit here.
Show Notes and Additional Resources: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-54-how-crnas-should-prepare-for-depositions-with-steve-mund/2215/
Today's Rundown:
2:23 – Today we’re joined by Steve Mund.
4:07 – Why is this topic so important?
4:59 – Here’s what got Steven interested in depositions.
7:14 – Why would a CRNA ever need to be deposed?
8:26 – Steve explains the deposition process.
10:46 – You need to have a lawyer that represents you personally.
13:26 – It’s important to understand your insurance policy and what it says.
15:44 – So I’m being sued, what do I do?
17:16 – How often do administrators have to deal with lawsuits?
18:38 – How are depositions different from trials?
21:13 – Being deposed makes people nervous. Here’s what you can do to make sure you don’t speak out of turn.
22:28 – Charting is extremely important.
24:24 – What do you do if you make a mistake while you’re testifying?
26:58 – If you feel like you’re losing your cool in that environment, what should you do?
29:48 – Why your demeanor can affect your deposition.
32:51 – What training or resources are available to CRNAs?
37:13 – Final thoughts on the subject.

Thursday Dec 26, 2019
Ep 53: Sharing the Gifts of Our Past
Thursday Dec 26, 2019
Thursday Dec 26, 2019
Past AANA presidents Sandy Ouellette, CRNA, and Nancy Maree, CRNA, join the show for the final episode of 2019. We’ll take a look back at how they’ve seen the profession evolve and discuss the gifts they’ve given and received from the profession through the years.
Show Notes and Additional Resources: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2208
Today's Rundown:
1:32 – We’re joined today by Nancy Maree and Sandy Ouellette for another historical episode.
2:27 – Today we want to talk about gifts received over a career in anesthesia.
3:42 – What drew Nancy into a career as a nurse anesthetist?
5:26 – Here’s what got Sandy into the career and it started at a young age.
8:50 – How has the educational process for nurse anesthetists changed over the past 40 years?
13:47 – Sandy remembers a coup that happened when she began school.
16:28 – Sandy talks about how different many of the processes were.
19:54 – The return on investment is still tremendous for CRNAs.
22:07 – Over 90% of CRNAs spend a career in clinical anesthesia, but Nancy and Sandy moved from clinical to educational. They talk about why.
26:47 – Both ladies have given back a lot to the profession.
31:59 – Nancy gives her thoughts on what she’s thankful for and what the next generation of CRNAs should be thankful for.
35:45 – Here’s what Sandy is thankful for.
37:12 – Sharon has a message for Jeremy.

Thursday Dec 19, 2019
Ep 52: Should CRNAs Contribute to Roth or Pre-Tax or Both?
Thursday Dec 19, 2019
Thursday Dec 19, 2019
As much as you love the work you do, eventually you’ll want to step away and enjoy time to yourself in retirement. But what’s the best way to invest for your future? Should you contribute your pre-tax money into a traditional IRA or is Roth a better option? Let’s discuss all the options available to you and what factors will determine the best route to retirement.
Full Show Notes and Additional Resources: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2200
Today's Rundown:
1:52 – Today we’re talking whether CRNAs should be contributing to a Roth or a pre-tax retirement account. Or both?
2:43 – There are two sides to remember to this. First you have Roth IRA vs Traditional (or pre-tax) IRA. And now you have Roth 401k/403b vs Traditional 401k/403b
3:43 – There’s no blanket answer. It’s different for everyone.
4:40 – Let’s start with the Roth IRA. Here’s what you need to know.
6:17 – The big debate is pay taxes now or pay them later. Here’s what you should consider.
8:20 – There’s an opportunity cost for utilizing the Roth. What if you took that extra pre-tax money and invested that elsewhere?
10:23 – What are some other reasons we might potentially choose the Roth?
12:25 – If we know you need to control your taxable income, Roth can be utilized.
14:19 – Planning helps you determine what percentage of your money to put into each account?
15:36 – Why the retirement system is skewed against high-income earners like CRNAs.
17:02 – How can you save more than the $19,000 limit?
18:55 – Jeremy explains backdoor contributions.
21:22 – Here’s the caveat to the backdoor though.
22:55 – Let’s talk about another option for CRNAs that have 1099 gigs.
25:18 – Can you contribute to both Roth and pre-tax within the same employer retirement account?
26:59 – How healthcare can impact your decision.
29:17 – Jeremy’s goal is to help the CRNA community be prepared.
30:47 – Everyone should have a financial check-up every year.
32:02 – Final thoughts on the topic.

Thursday Dec 12, 2019
Ep 51: Ronald Caulk, CRNA - An Agent For Global Change
Thursday Dec 12, 2019
Thursday Dec 12, 2019
Ronald Caulk poured more than 50 years of his life into being a Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist and his impact on the profession can still be felt today. Among his lifetime of achievements was his determination to have CRNAs around the world recognized for the work they do. Today we’ll look back at his life and his legacy with Sandy Ouellette, CRNA.
Full Show Notes: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2192
On This Episode:
1:59 – Sandy Ouellette back in the studio with us today to discuss Ronald Caulk.
2:37 – Who was Ronald Caulk and what did he accomplish?
5:02 – Most of his level of service at the state level was with the Arizona Association of Nurse Anesthetists.
6:09 – He had many AANA contributions.
7:10 – The establishment of the council on recertification and how he ended up meeting his wife Susan Smith.
10:13 – How did Sandy and Ron get involved together?
10:42 – They began working very closely when the idea of the IFNA began.
12:40 – How the IFNA formed.
15:22 – One of Ronald Caulk’s most memorable experiences happened on a trip to Ghana.
17:47 – Tell us about his contributions to the AANA and IFNA.
21:18 – Sandy tells a story about a time they visited North Carolina and Sandy’s jeep got stuck on the beach.
26:02 – How will Ron be remembered?

Thursday Dec 05, 2019
Ep 50: Promoting Diversity and Inclusion with Dr. Courtney Brown
Thursday Dec 05, 2019
Thursday Dec 05, 2019
The nurse anesthesia profession hasn’t traditionally been a field known for its diversity but that’s something leaders are trying to change. At the forefront is Dr. Courtney Brown at Wake Forest. She joins the show to discuss the importance of recruiting people from all backgrounds to nurse anesthesia and what’s being done to make that happen.
Show Notes: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2150
Today's Rundown:
2:16 – Welcome in our guest, Dr. Courtney Brown
3:23 – Dr. Brown has made many efforts to improve diversity and inclusion at Wake Forest and that will be our focus today.
3:46 – Why is this topic of diversity so important for our field?
4:35 – We’re behind many other health professions
6:00 – Explain diversity and inclusion and what they mean.
6:28 – An example of a recent graduate that almost didn’t apply to the program because of the marketing materials.
8:26 – Is there a negative perception of nurse anesthesia due to the lack of diversity?
10:26 – Why do people associate promoting diversity with Affirmative Action?
13:37 – Now that things are on the radar, is progress being made?
16:58 – How does recruitment work and what do you look for?
19:01 – Dr. Brown shares the updated statistics from her program.
20:23 – Explaining pipeline programming and how it works.
23:04 – The balance of male versus female in the profession.
24:49 – What can faculty at other programs do to improve diversity and inclusion?
27:20 – Where can the average CRNA start?
31:52 – What should be a part of the national agenda to assist in diversifying our profession?
27:17 – Final thoughts from Dr. Brown.