Beyond The Mask: Innovation & Opportunities For CRNAs
A podcast for the CRNA industry. Discussing the important issues that happen both in, and beyond, the operating room. With Sharon Pearce, DNP, CRNA, FAANA, FAAN and Jeremy Stanley, EA, CFP, AIF. Innovations & opportunities for CRNAs & APRNs. Visit our website for more great information https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ and to learn how you can get CE Credit as a CRNA just by listening to the podcast. Don’t miss our special series on CRNA History, CRNA Personal Finance & Retirement, Political Conversations, CRNA Career Issues, and our leadership series called Courage To Lead. Check out new episodes of Beyond The Mask every week with distinguished guests from the CRNA community... #anesthesiology #rn #surgery #healthcare #nurseanesthesiologist #crnaschool #nursing #srnalife #nurselife #nursingstudent #ornurse #nurseanesthesia #crnalife #nursepractitioner #medschool #anesthesialife #scrublife #icunurse #hospital #futurecrna #medical #crna #nurse #anesthesia #srna #nurseanesthetist #nurses #surgical #operatingtheatre #medicalstudent #operatingroomnurse #studentnurse #diversitycrna #ccrn #nursepractitioner #APRN #APRNchat #NPchat #midwife #NP
Episodes

Monday Jul 27, 2020
Ep 86: Pro Arguments for Keeping AANA Region Director Structure in Place
Monday Jul 27, 2020
Monday Jul 27, 2020
As the debate over whether the AANA should make the region director positions an at-large vote or maintain the current structure, we wanted to help present both sides of the debate. On this episode, we’re joined by Sallie Poepsel. MSN, PhD, CRNA, Julie Linton, MSN, CRNA, and Nick Blank, CRNA, MSN, APN, to hear why region directors should represent the area in which they live. The issue will be voted on Saturday, August 15, 2020.
Show notes and additional resources: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2578
Read more on the Bylaws here: https://www.aana.com/docs/default-source/exec-unit-my-aana-web-documents-(members-only)/goverance-docs/master-2020-proposed-bylaw-amendments-final-7-10-2020.pdf?sfvrsn=1f5ce5a1_2
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
Today's show schedule:
2:06 – Background on what we’re talking about.
2:55 – Our guests today.
4:07 – Julie Linton provides background on the issue.
8:44 – Wouldn’t at-large directors provide better qualified candidates?
11:57 – How a change could disenfranchise smaller states.
14:14 – Explaining how at-large voting would work.
18:19 – Nick shares an example from Region 1
21:13 – The perceived problem of regional leadership development.
26:17 – If there are a lot of great leaders out there, why aren’t they running already?
29:59 – If you abolish the current system, how assignments determined?
33:32 – Recommendation for requirements and qualifications to run.
36:49 – The one point of concern for everyone working on this issue.
38:48 – Nick adds to Julie’s point about one region or state having the majority of directors.
41:53 – Why are we going back to undo something that was voted on?
44:41 – Should the AANA function more as a business than it currently does?
47:19 – Making diversity a priority.

Thursday Jul 23, 2020
Ep 85: The Story of the First IFNA Researcher, Dr. Maura McAuliffe
Thursday Jul 23, 2020
Thursday Jul 23, 2020
Today we bring back Sandy Ouellette, CRNA, to provide us with a look back at an important time in the IFNA’s history. Soon after the organizationwas formed, a meeting with the World Health Organization led to Maura McAuliffe, CRNA, Ph.D, FAAN, being appointed the first official researcher. Find out how it all came about as we document what was learned about nurse anethetistsaround the world over the past 30 years.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2569
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
Today's show schedule:
2:41 – A topic that came up on a recent podcast about nurse anesthetists.
5:11 – What led to IFNA appointing an official researcher in the 90s?
6:34 – Maura McAuliffe, CRNA, Ph.D, FAAN, appointed as the INFA official researcher.
8:24 – Concerns for the IFNA leaders at the time.
9:29 – Why was Dr. McAuliffe the right person for the job?
11:21 – What was found from the first phase of surveys?
14:56 – How many total nurse anesthetists are there? Do we know?
19:21 – Phase 2 findings
25:09 – Why do European countries avoid using nurses in anesthesia?
31:56 – Ouellette wrote a letter to the editor about this European article.
35:51 – The future of the IFNA.

Thursday Jul 16, 2020
Ep 84: Promoting Professional Wellness with NCANA President Linda Stone, DNP, CRNA
Thursday Jul 16, 2020
Thursday Jul 16, 2020
Now more than ever, putting a focus on your wellness needs to be a priority for every CRNA. We all deal with stress and fatigue each day so giving our body a break is important. The good news is you’ll find a lot of resources and help from the professional organizations supporting CRNAs. Let’s find out more about those along with ways to improve wellness, and we’ll do it with NCANA President Linda Stone, DNP, CRNA.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-84:-promoting-professional-wellness-with-ncana-president-linda-stone,-dnp,-crna/2560/
About our guest: https://www.ncana.com/ncana-board-of-directors
Get CE Credit here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
Today's show schedule:
3:02 – Today we’re joined by NCANA President Linda Stone, DNP, CRNA
4:30 – Why is professional wellness important for CRNAs?
5:57 – Challenges in the workplace.
6:53 – Recent studies show burnout is on the rise.
8:41 – The issue of addiction.
9:43 – Coping mechanisms for CRNAs to use.
12:09 – Ways to develop a healthy workplace.
15:36 – Resources available for students dealing with stress.
19:08 – That feeling when leaving a leadership role.
21:52 – Here’s what the AANA offers for resources.
25:14 – Closing thoughts from Linda.

Thursday Jul 09, 2020
Ep 83: Courage to Lead - Former AANA President Dennis Bless, APRN, MS, CRNA
Thursday Jul 09, 2020
Thursday Jul 09, 2020
The next episode in our presidential series brings us a conversation with Dennis Bless, APRN, MS, CRNA, who served as AANA president for 2013-14. His financial background provided the organization with a new perspective and that helped make significant changes that still live on today. We’ll hear about his experiences and talk with him about diversity, compensation, relationship-building, reallocation and more.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2469
Get the CE certificate here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
Today's show schedule:
3:32 – Today we’re joined by Dennis Bless, CRNA. He shares his career background.
9:32 - The ASA PR campaign that ran as he was taking office.
13:07 – His role with helping rebuild the relationship between the NBCRNA and AANA
15:43 – AANA also knew they had to be clear that the members were the focus.
17:05 – Towards the end of his presidency, they held a recertification summit to bring all the important parties together.
18:31 – The feeling they had when first hearing about the NBCRNA and testing.
24:33 – There was also a diversity summit during his year. Some background on how that happened.
29:19 – The work he did on CEO compensation and evaluation.
31:56 – How they decided to reallocate money and established new by-laws.
35:18 – What were the most valuable leadership lessons learned during his time as president
36:47 – Dennis leaves this message for new CRNAs coming into the profession.
38:12 – If there was any other profession he could chose, what would it be?

Thursday Jul 02, 2020
Ep 82: The Story of Nurse Anesthesia Education and Accreditation
Thursday Jul 02, 2020
Thursday Jul 02, 2020
Nearly a century ago, nurse anesthetists took the first steps towards standardizing education and moving towards an approval process. It was a journey that faced many challenges and took various forms before reaching the point where we are today. Betty Horton, PhD, CRNA, FAAN, and Mike Kremer, PhD, CRNA, FAAN, join the show to take us through this history of education and accreditation along with where we’re headed.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2541
Today's show schedule:
3:34 – Another historical episode today with Betty Horton and Mike Kremer
6:06 – Why was their interest in starting an approval process for the schools of nurse anesthesia?
7:55 – What was Helen Lamb’s role in the process?
8:20 – The AANA archives are impressive.
9:08 – What all went into the accreditation process?
11:57 – When did we start approving nurse anesthesia schools and has that changed over time?
16:37 – How has the education changed for SRNAs and CRNAs
18:55 – Nurse anesthetists have lead the way in the nursing industry.
21:39 – Seeking external approval for accreditation.
25:03 – Challenges for accreditation through history.
29:54 – Physicians tried to shut down the schools at one point.
32:57 – What’s the status of nurse anesthesia education now?
36:31 – Closing thoughts from our guests.

Thursday Jun 25, 2020
Ep 81: How CRNAs Get Lost in the Financial World
Thursday Jun 25, 2020
Thursday Jun 25, 2020
CRNAs already have plenty to worry about each day and it’s convenient to put finances to the side. As we’ve seen in 2020, the unexpected can happen at any time so we need to make sure you have a plan for your money. Today we’ll talk about the way CRNAs typically get off-track with their finances but we’ll also give you steps to getting everything in order.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/?p=2533
Get CRNA financial planning guidance here: https://www.crnafinancialplanning.com/
Get CE Credit here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
Today's show schedule:
3:38 – If every job paid the same, which one would Sharon choose?
5:26 – What would Jeremy choose?
8:11 – Quote of the Month: “There’s a gigantic difference between earning a great deal of money and being rich.”
9:34 – An interview with Tom Brady stuck with Jeremy.
11:21 – Mailbag question: The coronavirus scare has me convinced that the market will keep crashing again and again. I’m ready to move everything to cash right now. Is there any reason to wait?
14:27 – Getting lost in the financial world happens to a lot of CRNA clients.
15:15 – Examples of bad tools people use that lead them astray in retirement planning.
17:36 – The next issue is bad directions.
19:41 – Another reason people make mistakes is a lack of attention.
21:41 – What you need to do to get back on track.
24:40 – Don’t be afraid to ask for help.
27:30 – Develop a plan for where you want to go and how you want to get there.
29:02 – This COVID pandemic might be a bit of a financial wake-up call for CRNAs.

Thursday Jun 18, 2020
Thursday Jun 18, 2020
The continued growth of the CRNA profession will rely on the young generation taking charge and leading the way, and that’s exactly what Julie Linton, MSN, CRNA, is doing as the president of the WVANA. Today we’ll talk to her about the drive to be in leadership positions, why it’s important for all CRNAs to be invested, and how she developed her cow-milking skills.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-80-leader-from-the-start-lessons-learned-from-a-state-presidency-with-julie-linton-msn-crna/2527/
Today's show schedule:
3:16 – Our guest today is Julie Linton
3:48 – Background on her career and current roles.
5:18 – She can teach you how to milk a cow
6:37 – Why she feels it’s important to get involved.
8:13 – Is there a disconnect between leadership and CRNAs
11:42 – Money is the great equalizer.
16:53 – What does Julie think about CRNAs that are non-members.
18:10 – Even if you don’t want to be political, paying dues is essential.
19:38 – The story of how she get involved in leadership roles so early.
23:30 – What’s it like serving on one of these leadership boards?
26:10 – What can we do to get the younger professionals more involved?
28:24 – What has your typical day looked like during your presidency?
33:28 – Favorite thing she’s done in a leadership role.
35:33 – Tell us something interesting about you.
39:25 – Sharon has one shameless request before we go.

Thursday Jun 11, 2020
Ep 79: The Path to Direct Reimbursement with Dick & Sandy Ouellette, CRNA.
Thursday Jun 11, 2020
Thursday Jun 11, 2020
You can argue that the passage of direct reimbursement in 1986 was one of the most significant lobbying achievements in healthcare. This process took much of the decade and spanned seven AANA presidents, including Dick and Sandy Ouellette, CRNA. We revisit those momentous years and learn more about all the hard work that went into getting direct reimbursement.
Read more and get additional resources here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/ep-79-the-path-to-direct-reimbursement-with-dick-sandy-ouellette-crna/2523/
Download the CE Credit form here: https://beyondthemaskpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Beyond-the-Mask-CE-Cert-FILLABLE.pdf
Today's show schedule:
1:44 – We have a couple of our favorites with us today.
3:20 – Let’s get some background on this great lobbying achievement.
5:30 – What happened when the regulators tried to fix this reimbursement problem?
9:10 – The unintended consequences of TEFRA Seven Steps
11:22 – Healthcare costs over $3 trillion today.
11:50 – PPS and DRGs
15:25 – What we brought to legislatures when we first started pushing direct reimbursement.
17:27 – Things can change quickly.
19:38 – Difficulty understanding the numbers.
20:55 – What was the plan for economic survival?
24:25 – Direct Reimbursement created some conflict.
26:17 – Let’s talk the actual road to reimbursement from 1983-89.
31:53 – The passage finally happens and the announcement that followed.
32:45 – It took the effort of all the members to make this happen.
34:03 – What did they do back then without a DC office?
35:42 – It was just as difficult in the years following direct reimbursement.
40:55 – Did you think we’d still be dealing with issues three decades later?
43:25 – A big victory for nursing as a whole.
44:36 – Closing thoughts on how great of a time this is for CRNAs.